a basic kick peformed by rotating the non-kicking leg so that the toes point backwards, bringing the kicking knee toward the target and snapping the foot forward striking with the instep or in some cases the ball of the foot.
The round house can vary depending on the martial art it is incorporated into. For example, in Muay Thai, same as above applies except for you really turn your hips and upper torso into the direction of the kick, pivoting on the foot of the non-kicking leg. You strike with your shin, using it like a bat. This is definetly the most effective way of doing a roundhouse kick, and damaging your opponent. It may not look that pretty, but Muay Thai is about combat, not aesthetics.
as a muay thai practicer for many years, ı may critisize "thai type roundhouse" if used under real combat situations in the street. if single middle or high round kick would be applied, it can easily be catched by a good grappler and you may find yourself on the ground...however, since the matchs are stopped in the ring, this is not so important for the fighters. but, in the street you must be very careful, if you do not know good ground(floor) technics.ı recommend only to use elbow (sawk),punch and knee(kao)combinations in the street fights.even, low kicks may be catched by a good grappler...
actually, roundhouse is a very effective technique in realistic combat, provided that you can do it quick enough. Many other kicks like side kicks and back kicks are slower and are hard to maintain balance while executing. A good quick round house is perfect for setting up for a more powerful thrust kick. To do a round house fast, put your front foot at 45-90 degree angle with your instep point forward, and pull your back knee forward and up like you are doing a front kick, and as you extend your leg, pivot your grounded foot so that it points backward and turn your hips in, at the same time, pull your arm that is on your grounded foot's side backward to your hip like you are setting up for a punch, this will force your body to turn giving more power to your kick. When your leg extends, it should whip forward and around, and all the control should be from your hips and body.
I agree with noonr's basic technique, however you must not let your arm come down to your hip! Leave both hands in the guard position by your head, or have your head taken off. Your choice! Personally I prefer to strike with my knees.
Tommo, you dont actually know what youre talking about. Kicking with the shin is just about the stupidest thing ive ever heard for a roundhouse kick. First of all it is easily blocked, secondly you need to get unnecessarily close to your opponent, and thirdly you nail your own shin. You SHOULD be kicking with the ball of your foot, not the top, side or instep, (or shin) but the BALL of the foot for a roundhouse. This is more effective as it creates a smaller surface area for harder impact, secondly its much harder to block, thirdly you can kick like this from longer range, fourthly its harder for your opponent to catch and fithly you dont hurnt yourself. L8erz you inexperienced loser. If you think that martial arts apart from muay thai are aesthetic then you are sadly wrong and one day will get the kicking of your life for underestimating opponents.
Karate Kid, u dont noe shit. Shin conditioning allows u to take punishment, and compare the shape of ur shins! The bone sticks out, therefor there is less surface area, and u have all this muscle to support it! Stop being such a pussy!
both of you are stupid for starts both styles work but also have weaknesses, ive done jujitsu for 7 years and we kick with our instep and ive fourght also in competion for about 6 years a never injured that part. so stop saying whats wrong and right cose none are wrong all styles have there merit. if you think else way you are not a true martial artest.
I train in WTF Tae Kwon Do. I do beleive that the Muay Thai style roundhouse is the MOST POWERFUL roundhouse kick in any martial art. However, it is not perfect. Number one, if the defender steps out of the way of the kick, it will take at least 2-3 seconds for the muay thai fighter to recover his balance and resume his fighting stance(due to the amount of power put into the kick)...giving a good figher all the time he needs to make his move. Another downside is that it is much slower than the traditional round kick. In my opinion, you should choose speed over power, becuase with speed comes power.
Im not saying that the traditional round kick is perfect, either. It would take at least 2-3 round kicks to do as much damage as a single good connecting Muay Thai roundhouse. That is unless the traditional round house kicker trains thousands of round kicks a day =).
Guys, all of you are correct. The "perfect"round house kick doesn't exist at all. The better or "perfect" kick is only better in terms of a particular aspect. The TKD roundhouse is of course the quickest. If you go for destructive power, choose the Thai one. I have been practising the Thai roundhouse for years. It is a very practical kick because of the power and the advantage of "variation of range" given by the whole shin including the knee. Since the direction of force is not very related to the direction of the knee, u can practise kicking with the inner ankle bones for extra range and power. The kick would look ugly but it doesn't matter.
Guys, all of you are correct. The "perfect"round house kick doesn't exist at all. The better or "perfect" kick is only better in terms of a particular aspect. The TKD roundhouse is of course the quickest. If you go for destructive power, choose the Thai one. I have been practising the Thai roundhouse for years. It is a very practical kick because of the power and the advantage of "variation of range" given by the whole shin including the knee. Since the direction of force is not very related to the direction of the knee, u can practise kicking with the inner ankle bones for extra range and power. The kick would look ugly but it doesn't matter.
Turning Kick by Taekwon-Do Practicer on 2002-08-24
Kick with the instep. Dont lean the body too far back. Snap the kick out. Stay flat footed. Dont come up on your toes just to get height.
Turning Kick by Taekwon-Do Practicer on 2002-08-24
Kick with the instep. Dont lean the body too far back. Snap the kick out. Stay flat footed. Dont come up on your toes just to get height. Make sure your shoulders are side ways on to the target.
Instep, ball of the foot or the shin of the kicking leg? The debate can go on and on. Maybe on one is particularly right. However, using the conditioned shins for kicking can give u the edge of having the shins as a pair of shields for blocking low leg kicks and kicks to the midriff region. One more thing, the Thai round kick's power comes from the body's angular momentum and the explosive hip rotation power at the moment of impact. The kicking leg should stay loose from the begining to the end. Is that different from other styles?
All you people just calm down and listen to me. You wanna know how to do a proper turning/roundhouse kick then i say you better watch former world taekwondo champion and filmstar:'TAN TAO LIANG.' Have you ever seen this guy kick before? He is so relaxed and he can hold his leg out proper high for as long as he wants. I have been studying this mans kicking style for ages and i am finally cracking it.
thats retarded to slam other styles because of the way they practice a certain technique; they are all good for different applications. Rather than slam other styles, learn them and incorporate them into your own fighting strategy, if they work for you
Well folks exactly one year ago i worked out for only two months not even and i was just as good as bruce lee in his moviess,there is a very big difference in his movies and how he was and trust me i was Not as fast as him in real life but his characters in the movies i was as fast as,, but nothing modivates me anymore to do these exercises can somebody please help me to find out how to get back into things...desperatley pleaplease i am on my kneese begging .....have a good day plese someyon send me some infopleaseeeee
do you know that the round house kick is also called turning kick in some places. more then 90% of kick executed in any WTF taekwondo tournament is turning kick...
I don't get how you're suppost to land. Do you do a complete 360?
Say I'm in a fighting stance left leg forward. Which leg kicks? I assumed it would be the right but somewhere I read you use the left. And after I connect with my target, then what? Does the leg go back to where it started or do I continue all the way around and spin 360?
Yes you do a 360 unless youre kicking someone behind you. And if youre in a left leg forward fighting stance you kick with the left. When youve kicked them then the leg goes back down.
A Muay Thai roundhouse is fast, if you've trained it enough you dont have to recover after the kick, Thai boxers can preform it staying in a position ready to strike again straight away depending on which area your striking at (legs/ribs/head), also it can be used with as a combo. I'm no expert with grappling styles but I should think it would be quite hard to grab at, mostly because putting your hands out to stop a well preformed Thai roundhouse isn't a good idea.
Ok.. left leg forward so you kick with the left leg. First how do you fold? Like a basic round/back kick (IE My knee is beside me facing my enemie) or in front of me like a forward/side kick?
Left leg forward, to get power I have to spend left?? And when I land, my left leg is still forward correct?
Yes, anonymous. Grabbing the kicking leg of a Thai fighter is not a very good idea. If you watch real Thai fighters fight in the Lumpini Stadium, you will see the round kick is mostly stopped by the teep-push kick(front thrust kick with the ball as the point of impact). You have to stop the kick before it develops in full force. If you have to block it, side-step a little(walk out of the power band), block it with the shins. No wonder why the Thai fighters are so confident of and of course conversant with the kick. You just can't stop it at no cost when it lands. Anyway, at whatever end of the spectrum of the roundhouse kick, there are merits and inevitably demerits. I also think the TKD style quick snap kicks are very practical. Sometimes speed is power, but speed without power is nothing.
Somehow if you are bombarded with punches and low leg kicks combos, you have no choice but to take the kicks on the shins. In addition, if you move away, your counter roundhouse kicks and punches will be way out of reach. In this case, you just let the guy fight according to his rythme...and you know he will win. For me, I will definitely nail the kicking guy with my cracking right straight after get in close. In a street scenario, the fists without gloves on are just murderous.
I have studied roundhouses for many years now and have even managed to (almost ) perfect them, no matter the style of fighting the best defence against them was shown by Harrison Ford, use a gun
The best way to block a muay thai round house is with somthing hard and solid. Because chances are anybody who uses has deluded themselves into thinking you can condition poorly supported bone like the shin. Not to knock it though, it does appear absolutely devastating. If however you want to continue martial arts for a long time, use the ball of the foot. All three are extremely effective but the ball of the foot runs the least risk of ligament damage. Better still do it the way you instructor tells you to and continue your art properly.
i wasn't aware that a shin kick could cause ligament damage! i think that a well conditioned shin is good for kicking the opponent in weaker places (never do a low kick with the shin for the obvious reasons, shin to shin, too close, etc...). kick them in the ribs or head. beware of grapplers. they will catch mid height kicks and rape you. >:)
Hi ppl! I have this question for you because of my ignorance. The Thai round kick always uses the shin as the point of impact, sometimes the instep in case of kicks to the neck or the head. I have been using the shins for years. It seems to be a good idea to switch to using the ball of the foot whenever the situation calls for it, eg. for longer reach, etc. However, I just dread to use the ball to land a solid Thai round kick(can the small bones take the abuse?). Will I damage my foot if I use it for a Thai round kick? considering the innate power from the body mechanics of a Thai round kick?
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME ANY EXERCISES TO INPROVE MY REVERSE ROUND KICK, I,M HAVING BIG PROBLEMS WITH THIS KICK GETTING ANY HEIGHT, PLEASE E-MAIL ME WITH ANY TIPS CHEERS
In theory the thai round house should worrk with the ball of the foot. However you dont have the same leeway with distance as you do with the shin. In wado ryu, most of the power comes from a twist of the hips rather than the leg. So if a wado practisioner exaggerates the movement or practices attacking an opponent further away than usual, the result is somthing not at all unlike the muay thai round house. So in theory (maybe in practice too) it should work. In wado we always kick with the ball of the feet on a round house you just have to ensure that you condition the toes and feet so that they are strong enough to bend far enough back in the kicking motion.
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Like people have said above, all styles have their merits, if you say one is better than the other, you are swelling in your own ignorance. I do Muay Thai, and i agree that when a powerful round kick is applied, it does take time to recover. But, the good fighter would not make the kick without assesing if he/she will connect or not. As for blocking? Forget it. You block with your arm, leg, whatever, It's gonna hurt you. A lot, so the best thing is, avoid fighting a Thai boxer, but go let your anger out on Tekken Tag!
Im assuming in most karates (because mine is this way) That you learn both? We exorsise using the toes pointed down instep striking but if we hit bags and crap we variate depending on situation
Nobody taught me the following. However, I thought I discovered it by my experimentation. In the Thai round kick, just for the Thai round kick which relies heavily on rotation, you can use the trick of conservation of angular momentum to speed up your kick and cause more impact. Just like what you do as usual. Take a 45degree side step and start the spin. when the kick is about to connect, slow down the upper body. Yeah I really meant slowing down... Since we are not Neo and all governed by the physical law of conservation of angular momentum, the lower body must receive the angular momentum of the upper body and must pick up extra speed. At the same time whip-dash you pelvis like Elvis and unleash the power of your kick. Remember to rotat your supporting leg. Then complete the turn and get back to the ready position. And you have done a quick and neat and very powerful round kick. However, this trick doesn't work on round kicks that use primarily leg power rather than body rotation.
OMFG. I dont know if anyone else has given this but this is how you do it. Its not hard at all. Be in a basic ready stance, if u dont have one one leg is always back and one leg front, back leg at 45 degrees front leg straight. 1 TURN FRONT foot 45 degrees outward 2 BRING YOUR BACK LEG KNEE UP AS HIGH AS YOU CAN AND TO THE SIDE AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE INWARD. Make sure the knee is beside you not in front of you, because all your power comes from this rotation. 3. BRING IT FORWARD, In AN OUTISDE TO INSIDE MOTION KICKING WITH THE BALL OF YOUR FOOT. do NOT kick with the top of your foot, that is for sparring if you dont want to hurt other person, SHIN stricking is pretty dumb unless greatly conditioned. When bringing it forward in a sort of swining motion (more of a snap for more advanced kickers) Keep it at 45 degrees.
If you do these steps seperately many times, (practice them) then you will have much greater stability and balance when doing it all at once. I take SHaolin Kung fu/WUSHU and i have never felt more stable when kicking. Even when I took TKD for a long time. 3.BRING YOUR
The to the side at 45 degree angle step is hard to get down every time especially if you want high kicks. But I gurantee you RIGHT rotation, right technique , and correct breathing (In otherwords use your chi as power). You can nearly kill someone with a single roundhouse kick if kicked in the right area. In otherwords MUY THAI roundhouse is supremely powerful, but can be damaging to yourself. If a perfect round house exists its when its done in the synchronization of your technique and your chi. My master has learned all the internal arts and with a single kick forever keep you from doing martial arts again. And Im not talking about breaking bones with a kick, im talking massive internal/external damage.
Your true form of martial arts can only be found by exploring within...There are people who are supremely flexbile and have great agility, great atheletes. But real fighting is completely different.....
The round kick can be a very complicated subject. To unleash explosive power, the correct transfer of momentum is extremely important. Actually the upper body moves a little ahead of the lower body. When the kick is about to connect, further rotate the supporting leg, slow down the rotation of the upper body and at the same time turn the waist to whip the leg across the target. It is very important to keep the kicking leg loose all the time otherwise you will be using the strength of your kicking leg rather than the strength of your whole body which is many many times more powerful. Perfect coordination is the key here. It is the essence of the Thai round kick. Remember you don't kick someone with your leg. You kick him with your whole body behind the leg. One more thing, to initiate the kick with a quick spin, just think you can do it at lightning speed and do it. Let the mind takes control. Don't think about which leg should do what. This is the wrong way. The Thai round kick is more difficult than it looks.
I have been studying Muay Thai for a number of years, and all I can say is that the style suits me as a person, especially the way you kick. I have put alot of thought into the intricacies of kicking especially doing round kicks, and the first thing you learn is that there are literally thousands of variations even within one style, each for it's own point and purpose and situation. No one is better than another, though improving your own technique is an on going process of constant practice, let alone the improvement and maintaining of specific muscle strength and flexability that you need through constant practice. You can always improve. There is so much fine detail needed in just one specific kick let alone the rest of the variation on that kick or on top of that the rest of your martial art syllabus! I don't know how people get past white belt/sash! Discussing with a work college who has been doing karate for over 17 years, he was showing me his traditional round kick with the ball of the foot. I can't say about anyone elses karate style, but I REALLY wouldn't want to be kicked with that! He himself has metal plates in his head from when someone kicked him.
I have been training capoeira for a few years now and as a fighter I have realised that, Capoeira is a rather diverse martial art. Most of the practical moves are derived from "hardcore" martial arts such as muaythai and juijitsu. My master however trains us two use both ways of the round house. I guess you could call one fast and the other strong. with the fast one we rise our knee up front wards then pivot quikly so our knee is on a 90 degree angle from here we snap our leg out quikly, with the strong style(muaythai) we sort've drage our leg all the way from the back. we kinda imagine the strong style like getting a large mecheti and slicing it through a palm tree with a huge swing. anyway my point is despite the fact that plenty of our kicks are based on muaythai kicks we still emphasise the use of variations. concentrating on a particular style will only hinder your ability as a fighter. personaly i always do the faster method and only use the stronger style(muaythai) as an "oppurtunity kick", I suppose thats just capoeira but we always emphasise on timing oppurtunity and suprise. PS. if any cockweed numskull believes that capoeira is a dance learn this, capoeira has all the core elements of muaythai and juijitsu roled into a smoothe flowing martial art.
Actually strangely enough I've just started doing Capoeria as well, going to get my corda in a week or so. I keep wanting to blend in my Thai Boxing kicks in the Roda but the problem is I've train hard to not telegraph these moves and to try and trick, look for openings and hit my opponent hard, in otherwords I find I have to really concentrate to actually miss. At high level I see that the 'game' turns more and more into sparring. But I don't think anyone would pretend that they train in Capoeira to kick like Muay Thai; to gain as much speed and power and point of impact to cause as much as damage as possible single mindedly. Alot of Capoeira is looking good about what ever you do, which I have to admit I am enjoying!
Hi Cyber Sex. I am really sorry to hear your situa tion. Anyway, the round house kick is an offensiv e kick, which means no matter what style, it is for hurting ppl. And at the same time, you r open to cou nter attacks. when u use it. So unless you are very good at using it, don't use it. If you want to defen d yourself effectively, I suggest you to learn th e lead leg push kick(or front thrust kick). IT is p erfect for self defence. against punches, round house kicks, If you know how to use power from your hips in the kick, you can send the assailant flyin g across the room. I did that long long time ago. Fo r the purpose of effective self-defence, I sugge st you to learn the basic boxing 1-2 which is the ja b, punch combination. You can knock sb out cold wi th ease. Anybody has comments or suggestions?
Hey ppl, congrats on what seems to be the longest debate in this great website. Anyway, just wonde ring whether any of you experience hip/buttock p ain of the supporting leg (the one whose foot is on the floor) when performing a roundhouse kick (i a m referring more to the muay thai method that i pra ctice in kyokushin). The only reason i can think o f is that i'm not pivoting on my supporting foot en ough, and am getting impingement of bone at the hi p joint. SO, if any of you out there have experienc ed and overcome the same problem, please let us kn ow! You will make one old-timer very happy. Happy training OSU!
the roundhouse is nothing more than a twist and a quick strike i have broken many peoples faces due to it so be prepared to block with elbows and palms
I do taekwondo and have done several sport taekw ondo tournaments. In them we do a roundhouse made for scoring. Not to kill someone like the 70's psy cos. We simply shoot are leg forward like a center snap kick. except with the toes pointed down and a tiny twist of the hips. NOT A TYPICLE knee up first , snap it, and retract kick. Anyone who has been to Nationals for USTU or any REALLY tough olympic st yle sport taekwondo tournament knows my side.
I was actually WONDERING if there is a name fo r a multiple roundhouse attack??? basically l eft right left right left......... and so on alte rnating legs. not seting down every kick. basica lly as a roundhouse leg is coming back the other le g is already on the way.
remember both the shin and in step should be cond itioned to kick what ever the technique my experi ence is that its not the bullet that kills you its t he speed of the bullet in other words work on getti ng the kick there first by training in timing(spa rring one step etc) then choose if you are a good ki cker ( if you have a good sucsess rate hitting your opponent) then work on conditioning your shins a nd feet so that when you throw your kicks and you co nnect either the target or an elbow for instance e van a head coz it will hurt you when you kick that yo u hurt them not you hope you all take note of this i h ave had 47 thai fights undefeated and have won num erous full contact karate competitions and have never lost so not like some of the dicks who are giv ing stupid opinions on how to do a roundhouse kick with the ball of the foot that is a old karate syste m used when they wore armour never seen a samuri fi ght with no shoes on
How to make it stronger :* i am only 12 years old an d juz a blue belt in karate and i weigh 120 pounds an d how to develop muscles.And espically how to los e weight?
USTU can kick my ass, (i'm sick of tkd and all the o rganizations)
Multiple roundhouse, right -left-right-ect. hopping from foot to foot real ly fast in a continous motion are called nana-cha gi in korean I think.
I have a blackbelt in TKD and won a few state tournaments back when I was col ored belt (beat a 2x colorbelt national champ at m aryland in my first olympic tournament) but I qui t after I got my blackbelt because no matter how mu ch fun it is to roundhouse kick (real tkd fighters who practice 1000s of kicks a day know what I'm tal king about) punching someone in the face is a lot s weeter.
Anyway thats what my instructor (8t h degree bb, korean born, his father gave chuck no rris his 7th degree blackbelt, ect.) called it. H e also used to thai box and won the korean national championship and teaches several methods of rou nd kicking.
Maybe i dont know what im saying, i dont pretend t o either. But any individual who is reading this, It is nice to observe the different techniques th at you all have been taught and let the reader find what works for them.
Hmmm, I'm kinda trippin coz an Armada & a Martelo R 2 very different kix.... Im a capoeirista and I' m guessin by the original description that it'z a martelo not an armada..... In capoeira a marte lo strikes with the shin and/or the top of tha cont racted foot.
anyone having trouble getting thier legs high enough you should learn splits.... everyway it does help =D have fun stretching should stretch like ballerinas leg up head down ^__^.
anyone having trouble getting thier legs high enough you should learn splits.... everyway it does help =D have fun stretching should stretch like ballerinas leg up head down ^__^.
anyone having trouble getting thier legs high enough you should learn splits.... everyway it does help =D have fun stretching should stretch like ballerinas leg up head down ^__^.
anyone having trouble getting thier legs high enough you should learn splits.... everyway it does help =D have fun stretching should stretch like ballerinas leg up head down ^__^.
